[North-NV-Greens] Fwd: [usgp-dx] Report from Asa Gordon on the Dec. 8 forum in DC on voting irregularities in Ohio

Thu Dec 9 22:51:50 PST 2004

>This is an interesting read. I have met this Asa Gordon; he has done 
>his homework and knows
this subject well. I find it interesting that he says the Democrats 
can still will the election of 2004
without a recount. Where's Kerry? Is he still alive? Or did he run 
just to go through the motions
of pretending there was a choice?

>
>  >From Asa Gordon <Electorsus at aol.com>, chair of
>the DC Statehood Green Party's Electoral College
>Task Force and an organizer at the Douglass
>Institute of Government...
>
>
>On Wednesday, December 8, at the "Forum on Voting
>Irregularities in Ohio" held in Rm. 2237 Rayburn
>House Office Building, Washington, D.C. I placed
>in the congressional record the following four
>Documents:
>
>1. The Congressional Research Service (CRS)
>report on "The Voting Rights Act of 1965, As
>Amended: Its History and Current Issues" (Order
>Code 95-896 GOV); prepared for members and
>committees of Congress. (Hi-lights DIG Civil
>Action).
>
>2. A Table and Electoral Map of the Allocation of
>
>Presidential Electors for 2004 in Red States that
>are not bound by state law, i.e. no "winner take
>all statute".
>
>3. News Release: Greens Call For The Enforcement
>of the 14th Amendment's 'Right to Vote'
>Provision.
>(http://www.gpus.org/press/pr_10_18_04.html)
>
>4. Greens Position Statement on the 14th
>amendment.
>(http://green.gpus.org/vote/displayproposal.php?proposall=110.)
>
>Following the panel presentations at the first
>open mike David Lytel Director of
>redefeatbush.com held in hand a copy of the US
>Constitution and read the Second Section of the
>14th Amendment and posed to all panel
>participants and members of congress why that
>article of the constitution has never been
>enforced. There was absolute silence, no one
>offered any response. After an awkward pause
>people in the audience began to mumble why don't
>they respond. The silence was very telling.
>Conyers then mumble something about we will look
>into it and when on to the next person in line.
>
>When my time at the mike came I made two points.
>I said in essence "That in regards to the First
>question posed to this forum for which none of
>you had an answer, I have already submitted to
>your minority council for the congressional
>record  of this hearing a CRS Report that
>hi-lights my Civil Action, the first since
>Reconstruction, on this very constitutional
>question protecting the "Citizens Right to Vote"
>and it hi-lights that civil action over all the
>Civil Actions of every one here at this forum."
>... and Furthermore "The Democrats can still win
>this election under the law and without any
>recount at all. All you have to do is to contact
>your Democratic presidential electors in 15th
>"Red States" that have no statute that bounds its
>Presidential electors by a "winner take all
>statute" that requires the candidate that
>receives the most votes are allocated all of that
>states presidential electors. You can direct them
>to vote in the electoral college in the
>percentage of the vote Kerry received in their
>particular state". Again absolute silence. I then
>requested and it was accepted a document of the
>table the and electoral map of the Red States in
>question, for them to act on.
>
>After the hearings I was approached (note) by a
>number of lawyers, one a PH.D. who asked me
>questions and admitted  ignorance on this matter.
>We were all in agreedment on the obvious problem
>of "standing" (everybody is not a Bush before the
>court) but they all expressed interest in my
>arguments. Only one congressional aide (Dennis J.
>Kucinich) at the hearings approached me for more
>details on my 14-2 actions, and took notes.
>
>David Lytel (Whom I met at a Votermarch rally  at
>the Capital where he and I were speakers, and got
>his organization redefeatbush.com to endorse
>support of my actions) has requested that I
>address a rally at Lafayette Park this Saturday
>at noon. Note my remarks at the Votermarch
>capital rally is posted at
><http://www.electors.us>.
>
>BACKGROUND:  On Monday, Dec. 6th, I contacted
>Rep. Robert C. Scott's aide Larry Dillard to see
>if he was aware of the article in the Washington
>Post on my "Fight for Freedom Tour", he was. I
>requested that he pass on to Scott that I offered
>to appear on a panel for the  upcoming "Forum on
>Voting Irregularities in Ohio". (Note Rep. Scott
>appointed me to his "New Market Heights Memorial
>Committee" http://www.sdusct.org).
>
>Bobby had Michone T. Johnson Minority Counsel for
>the Committee on the Judiciary to contact me. She
>apologized and explained that the forum was
>already over booked, but I would be on the short
>list for any following hearings. But she would
>submit my documents for the congressional record.
>I said "O'k but to be frank this is just going to
>be a frustration venting for the most part, but
>tell Bobby, I am more upset that  from the panel
>lineup I have seen on e-mail, it is outrageous
>that David Cobb Presidential Candidate for the
>Green Party, is not on the list, without his
>efforts this forum would not even be taking
>place, room has to be made for him."
>
>I was very pleased to see Cobb at the hearing. I
>had two documents passed to him before his
>address, i.e. 3&4 above. I was disappointed, I
>had hoped he would work it into his presentation,
>but he didn't, and didn't have much time.
>However, it worked out between David and Myself,
>in getting it before the hearing. I was
>interviewed by some media types.
>
>Ellie Smeal, Executive Director, The Feminist
>Majority,and I had an interesting conversation
>afterwards where she noted their response to my
>remarks brings into question whether the
>Democrats really have any serious desire to fight
>this thing.
>
>Asa Gordon,
>Exe.Dir.DIG
>Chair, DCSGP_ECTF
>
>
>
>
>
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