[North-NV-Greens] RE: Washoe meeting

Wed Jan 31 17:54:55 PST 2007

Craig and others,

Thanks for your thorough reply.  

You wrote, "If anyone wants to add anything for us to discuss, please
write."

I think one issue that needs to be discussed is the status of the three
e-mail lists that we have.  I've been having great difficulty with
these lists and still do not appear to be receiving any e-mail from
these lists.  Someone who knows the dasbistro guy needs to contact him
in order to get passwords for all of the lists so we can clean them up
and make sure everyone is able to get e-mails from them and send
e-mails to them.  This task should take no more than 5 minutes or so,
but it needs to be done by someone who knows Sam.

Another issue would be the Executive Council of the Green Party of
Nevada.  It is no longer functioning.  That's a pretty bad sign.  As
far as I can tell from my minimal contact via e-mail, only the people
copied in this e-mail remain active from the past, Nylene being the
newest active member.  I get e-mails from info at clarkcountygreens.org
and gpnv at clarkcountygreens.org about once every two weeks with someone
who's interested in volunteering.  I usually refer them to either Craig
or Charles I. and to the e-mail lists for more information.  So, it's
not as if the people being copied to this e-mail are the ONLY people
interested.  That's a good sign, I think.  I remember that Charles I.
had an interesting idea about possible re-organization of the party,
maybe someone else has a good idea???

Anyway, let me know what else is needed and I'll see what I can do.  

Jason Denzin

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Washoe meeting
> From: "craig  bergland" <renofreepress at charter.net>
> Date: Wed, January 31, 2007 6:09 pm
> To: <jdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org>, "Clark Greens"
> <clarkgreen at dasbistro.com>, "Nevada Green Party"
> <nvgreen at dasbistro.com>, "North Greens" <north-nv-greens at dasbistro.com>
> Cc: "Charles Imboden" <cimboden at clarkcountygreens.org>, "Paul
> Etxeberri" <eusko at greens.org>, "Paul Juntunen" <dotsphan at excite.com>,
> <charleslaws at att.net>, "Nylene" <nylene at sbcglobal.net>,
> <gdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org>
> 
> Thank you Jason,
> for your nice words and help.
> 
> To explain more my position on the last few days before the election, yes, I
> decided to come out for Titus.
> It was a hard decision and risk I thought (tho' moot...) important to make.
> And I realized I would take some heat.
> However, as I saw Dina getting closer in the polls, and after reviewing
> Gibbons plan for energy self-sufficiency (more coal plants and a gas
> refinery in old mines...) I was pretty alarmed at the latter's direction for
> us.
> As I hoped and prayed that we would get somewhat over 1% of the vote, I
> thought that any extra might go toward helping defeat Gibbons.  I thought
> hard about the timing, and guessed that supporting her just a few days
> before the election, might give her an extra point or two, and not detract
> too much from our percentage.
> It was a very calculated risk on my part, and let me tell you it would have
> been much, much, much easier to have done nothing and let the chips fall.
> I was very lucky to have gotten that 1% after all this, and I am greatful
> that the dice landed right.
> Incidentally, as a result of my chat with Ms. Titus, Nevada Greens would
> have had seats at the table to her Task force on alternative energy. I
> thought that a pretty good prize had it happened.
> So I made this decision unilaterally, and risked my questionable reputation
> and name.  The decision made some enemies, lost some friends, and I am
> certain to hear about it for quite a while.
> However, I thought it was the right thing, and the most positive thing to do
> at the time.
> I also supported quesiton 7, which didn't fail by all that much.  One of the
> great rewards was the good wishes of emailers from around the country who
> thought that that was a timely and sane question, and I am sorry that I did
> not give my earlier support to the Nevada group behind this question.  One
> of the many reasons for supporting it was to open the door do the growing of
> industrial hemp. Industrial hemp MAY be one of the superstars of the biofuel
> feedstock we need to develop.  It provides (reputedly) direct biodiesel
> replacement, as well as bioethanol, and a myriad of other good products.  I
> supported 7 because we will never look at hemp if we are not allowed to grow
> it.  Catch 22.  While I still think industrial hemp is more important than
> question 7, I do support 7, absolutely, and will continue to.
> Running for office was a terrific life experience.  It really was, and I am
> so greatful to all who gave their support, good words, and good wishes. I
> grew personally during this experience at an accelerated rate, and it had
> enormous impact on crystalyzing many of my beliefs.  I look forward to
> helping you all when you run in 08, with what I learned -- which is not
> necessarily a lot....  I did not learn how to work well with the media.  I
> hoped the positions would pique the public interest, but the print media
> were mostly a closed door, and the vid media always edited out the very best
> parts.  Also, early in the campaign I was completely uncoached for talk
> radio and other interviews.  Had I know these things before, it might have
> been a little different.  Anyway, when you all get ready to run, (which has
> to be pretty soon) then maybe I can share some stuff, and volunteer to help
> you.
> Nylene, I hope this answers your question, an if anyone wants to chat on the
> side about this, please write me.
> Thank you.
> 
> Now that the mail lists are starting to get some use, here's the latest from
> Washoe.  We hope to meet within the next 2 sundays. (my new job hours are as
> yet undetermined).  We will discuss Jason's thoughts on our
> time-availability, talk about what to do next, try to figure out the bank
> account, see about making a formal request for adding memebers to the EC,
> and maybe try to form a couple of committees on media relations, getting up
> to date with Secretary of State, redoing the PizzaPix&Politix monthly event,
> and talking about how best to use the upcoming Earth Day here.
> If anyone wants to add anything for us to discuss, please write.
> 
> I learned that most people say it takes two years to mount a successful
> campaign for office.   I suspect that if the spirit is there it takes less.
> Wouldn't it be nice to get a few Green offices next eleciton?  Yes, Jason, a
> state assembly seat or two would certainly get some attention, as well as
> some local offices. Then perhaps the media will not continue to snub 3rd
> parties.  It's time to hold the media accountable.
> 
> Thank you,
> Craig Bergland
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <jdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org>
> To: "craig bergland" <renofreepress at charter.net>; "Clark Greens"
> <clarkgreen at dasbistro.com>; "Nevada Green Party" <nvgreen at dasbistro.com>;
> "North Greens" <north-nv-greens at dasbistro.com>
> Cc: "Charles Imboden" <cimboden at clarkcountygreens.org>; "Paul Etxeberri"
> <eusko at greens.org>; "Paul Juntunen" <dotsphan at excite.com>;
> <charleslaws at att.net>; "Nylene" <nylene at sbcglobal.net>;
> <gdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Washoe meeting
> 
> 
> > Craig,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.
> >
> > First of all, it's great to be in contact with you!  Your campaign was
> > an important one for the Green Party of Nevada and I thank you very
> > much for the energy and time you spent on it.  You have some amazing
> > ideas and a great talent for telling people the truth.  Thank you.  I
> > didn't appreciate your concession to the Democrats near the end of your
> > campaign, but it turned out not to make much of a difference in the end
> > ... as conceding, joining, or voting for Democrats rarely does ... even
> > if they do get elected.
> >
> > I've sent out a few e-mails and have not received a reply in the past,
> > so I figure why send them out in the first place, you know?  I'll be
> > moving out of the state in about a month, so my participation will only
> > be via e-mail (not so different from the way it is now) until I am no
> > longer needed.  Although, with the way the party is currently
> > functioning, I'm not sure how I'm needed right now.  In any case, if
> > you're serious about what you write below and what you've written in
> > past e-mails (and if the others in Reno that you're writing about are
> > serious as well), then they and you will need to keep in better contact
> > in some way ... letter, e-mail, phone, etc...  If you're (they're) busy
> > at work, then maybe taking on state party responsibilities isn't the
> > right thing for you (them) to do.  Let someone else take on these
> > responsibilities, someone who has the time and energy to be consistent
> > and timely in their efforts.  There are plenty of people out there who
> > are interested in volunteering for the Green Party of Nevada.  All we
> > need to do is contact them and ask them to help.
> >
> > As for posting your message to the e-mail lists, I'll try but I don't
> > think it's going to make a difference.  Either the e-mail lists are no
> > longer working (Paul E. is one of the listed administrator's of the
> > lists) or people are simply no longer responding.  Charles I. and I
> > have tried multiple times to get passwords so that we can maintain
> > those e-mail lists and we have so far been unsuccessful.
> >
> > I would like to write more, but at the same time, I don't want to waste
> > my time writing an e-mail that you and everyone else is not going to
> > read or respond to.  If you or anyone is interested in my comments on
> > what you've written below or what I've written thus far, please e-mail
> > me at jdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org or call me at 702-460-6265 and I
> > will respond promptly and thoroughly.
> >
> > The Green Party of Nevada could really make a difference in 2008 by
> > winning local elections.  One state assembly seat would bring our party
> > a great deal of mainstream media attention.  And winning a state
> > assembly seat in Nevada is much easier than one might think.  We can do
> > this!  I can do a lot from out of state as Craig and Charles L. can do
> > from China and Europe.  But, we need a better way to communicate.  I'm
> > open to suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jason Denzin
> > jdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org
> > 702-460-6265
> >
> >
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Re: Washoe meeting
> >> From: "craig  bergland" <renofreepress at charter.net>
> >> Date: Sun, January 28, 2007 7:04 pm
> >> To: <jdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org>
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> Yes, I did get your email, and I have not responded yet.  My apologies.
> >> I
> >> very recently started work again at one of those hideous cheapo N.Nevada
> >> casinos (no union).  One of those places where I have to randomly pee in
> >> a
> >> bottle to make the equivalent of what I made 15 years ago in wages.
> >> Unfortunately I can go wash cars for an extra 50 cents an hour.  That's
> >> what
> >> 30 years in the industry gives one here in Northern Nevada....
> >> Jason, please post this to the dasbistro and whatever contacts you may
> >> consider relevant to get this message out.
> >> We all have a lot to do.
> >> It is time for us Nevada Greens to have a council on what we are going to
> >> do
> >> on the state level to maintain state legitimacy.
> >> We have to push the SOS to put Green Party as a CHOICE on voter
> >> registration
> >> forms...as opposed to write-in.
> >> We must take care of our financial aspects, it's costing us almost $10 a
> >> month for unknown fees in our state account.
> >> We have to resolve this.
> >> We have 3 members who want to carry-on on the executive council.  We in
> >> Washoe need to get accesss to funds for the upcoming EarthDay event
> >> here.We
> >> need to update with Secretary of State as to contact info, etc.
> >> Also we must consider the upcoming annual Green meeting (spring) as
> >> required
> >> by sec of state to keep current.
> >> And  I must apologize to all you Nevada Greens for failing in my tenure
> >> as
> >> an at large member of the Executive Committee of the Green Party of
> >> Nevada
> >> for not upholding my duties as well as an at-large member as I might
> >> have.
> >> Running for office last year took much away from my performance, and for
> >> that my Karma will  kick me in the butt.
> >> Ah so.
> >> We have a chance in the '08 elections to get many Greens on the ballot.
> >> It's time for YOU as a Green to think about running.  We learned a lot on
> >> how to do that last year, and our efforts will have been for naught if
> >> no-one runs.  We DO have ballot access for this next cycle, and it would
> >> be
> >> really nice if we took advantage of that. YOU, yes, YOU should think
> >> about
> >> joining the fray in '08.  Won't hurt too much and we can help you with
> >> your
> >> efforts to run.....
> >>
> >> These are some of my concerns, and I hope that you have the wherewithal
> >> to
> >> get my spurious posting out to all Nevada Greens who are ready to input
> >> into
> >> our myriad dillemas.
> >> Jason, you have done a stellar job of holding and keeping our State Green
> >> Party here in Nevada together, and I thoroughly and absolutely thank you
> >> for
> >> that.  Good job!
> >> Thanks to Craig, our ambassador in China, and to Charles Laws, our
> >> ambassador in Europe.We are the ONLY Green Party in the US with both of
> >> those overseas members. And, if I can get my act together, we will be the
> >> first state to get the wonderful and striking Green party platform
> >> translated into Spanish. (somebody remind to to start this venture...)
> >>
> >> Bully for us!!!
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Craig Bergland,
> >> At large member of the Executive Council of the Green Pary of Nevada.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: <jdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org>
> >> To: "craig bergland" <renofreepress at charter.net>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:39 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Washoe meeting
> >>
> >>
> >> > Craig,
> >> >
> >> > I replied to this e-mail a while back and still have not heard back
> >> > from
> >> > you.  Did you get that previous e-mail?
> >> >
> >> > Jason
> >> >
> >> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> >> Subject: Washoe meeting
> >> >> From: "craig  bergland" <renofreepress at charter.net>
> >> >> Date: Mon, January 15, 2007 5:59 pm
> >> >> To: <jdenzin at clarkcountygreens.org>
> >> >>
> >> >>       Hi Jason and Genelle, Hopy you guys are good. We had an
> >> >> excellent
> >> >> Washoe meeting yesterday.  Got a little enthusiasm going, and we
> >> >> talked
> >> >> about some issues. Paul X said that all mail is coming to his PO box,
> >> >> which is fine, and that the bank account in las vegas apparently is up
> >> >> in
> >> >> the air. He got a check from somewhere for a few dollars, and we want
> >> >> to
> >> >> get it in the account when possible. Also we talked about making sure
> >> >> the
> >> >> state party is current and legitimate with Sec of State, etc., and
> >> >> want
> >> >> to work on making sure that is all ok. Do you think we could hold an
> >> >> executive council meeting? Kathy Rusco expressed an interest in trying
> >> >> for the co-chair position, and we agreed that might be a very good
> >> >> thing
> >> >> for gender equity.  Also both Pauls are interested in positions on the
> >> >> EC. Do we have enough of us around to do a formal EC meeting, and
> >> >> possibly try to include these folks onto the committee? We're all
> >> >> reasonably inspired up here, and want to help take some of the
> >> >> responsibilities for trying to keep the state party going off of your
> >> >> shoulders, at long last. Are you willing to help with the website
> >> >> maintenance as you mentioned before? I'm still job hunting, and seem
> >> >> to
> >> >> be coming out of my 2-month long writers block. Finally. It's cold as
> >> >> hell up here. Thank you, and please write when you get a chance. Are
> >> >> you
> >> >> folks still moving, and if so, will you still be active here?   Yours,
> >> >> Craig
> >> >
> >