Fw: [NV Greens] Re: NV NORML

[beth at nevadanorml.org]

well glad we're along the same lines.. lol
So does that mean you want to become a member? 8)

 Beth

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <charleslaws at att.net>
> To: <nvgreen at dasbistro.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:10 AM
> Subject: [NV Greens] Re: NV NORML
>
>
>>
>> Thanks for the efforts Beth.
>>
>> What has happened to the NORML, and related efforts which have been 
>> ongoing in NV? Can anyone summarize the NV history re: hemp and 
>> marijuana, and send it to the list?
>>
>> I, for one, and geographically detached at that, would participate in 
>> development of ideas that GPNV would promote to encourage agricultural 
>> hemp and a revision of the drug perceptions.. industry, use, cultivation, 
>> wars, etc.  I think hemp could out produce, be more profitable, and use 
>> less water, than alfalfa.
>>
>> morning rambles:
>>
>> I have insulated my roof with a flax fiber product, only because my first 
>> choice, hemp fiber, was sold out for the season.  France and Germany have 
>> very active hemp farming and utilization industries. The applications of 
>> the fiber and oil, and seed cake are too many to list. The ease of 
>> cultivation, well known. Only hemp's competition with synthetic materials 
>> and government regulators too sympathetic to industrialists has prevented 
>> this renewable product from maintaining its long history of utility. 
>> Misinformation propagandists have perverted perceptions and created 
>> prejudice and fear. I'm of the opinion that the Green Party should be 
>> leading the movement toward sustainable agriculture and "free market" 
>> determination of crop producers' and consumers' choices. [And reduction 
>> in the power of money lust to promote/prevent choice.]
>>
>> Drugs:
>> Out of sight irrationality!
>>
>> Those who've dominated the field of snake oil and derivatives are the 
>> greatest profiteers, surpassing even the producers of military inanities. 
>> of course where would america be today if it weren't for all the radio 
>> and TV ads, drugstores, and inflation producing medical industry and 
>> facilities pushing pills and needles under government regulation and 
>> supports?
>>
>> Moralistic rationalizations foster im-moralistic abuse and killings. Drug 
>> wars support the "illegal" [read beyond government control] trade and 
>> violence preferring tradesmen and warriors. Those who derive livelihoods 
>> and like participation in violent lives like drug wars.  Any moralist who 
>> takes a moment to consider all the consequences can not condone the 
>> violence and social disruptions the futile attempts to prevent 
>> distribution and use perpetually requires. An economist's ananlysis [if 
>> not constrained by prejudice] would also deem drug suppression and 
>> control by violence, "disorganized" by gangs or organized by governments, 
>> to be irrational and uneconomic.
>>
>> My proposal: establish the market free of violence. For those insisting 
>> on "government control"  initiate government purchases of all the product 
>> that can be produced, directly from the farmers. This would eliminate 
>> [supposedly] the corruption of the middlemen, druglords and gang creation 
>> and dealers. Sell to industrialists and drugstore distributors, or simply 
>> convert to other energy forms.. burn the crop after purchase.. Have the 
>> drugs available at a price relative to costs for the farmers, buyers, 
>> distributors, and remove the increases due to "illegality".. and the 
>> illegal drug traders would have no incentive to kill each other or 
>> disrupt functioning of civil and social institutions. These are 
>> agricultural products. There is no reason that they should cost more than 
>> coffee or tea, or maybe even sugar.  Remove the incentive and thrill of 
>> illegal use, and the profits and violence of "conventional" distribution, 
>> and discover that the controlling interests are the competitors with d
>> eep pockets, generous lobbyists, and country club friends in government. 
>> Administrations, and their friends, profit more with illegalities than 
>> with Adam Smith's free market. [not saying that I advocate 
>> capitalist/consumption/growth basis for a sustainable economy.. just 
>> pointing out that money is dominating governance and leading to 
>> unsustainable behaviors.  identifying that civil structure and economic 
>> relationships in secure environments requires some kind of predator 
>> control indicates that we are in an unstable, insecure, phase presently 
>> as the predators are in control..   very hard to advocate non-violence 
>> and predator control when the predators maintain control of all 
>> significant forms of violence, and will use all tools available to 
>> suppress the prey..us.]
>>
>> alternative:
>> Convene two grand juries.. One composed of citizens with no addictions to 
>> legal drugs, ethanol, nicotine, caffeine, acetaminophen, etc. and no 
>> experience or exposure to "illegal" drugs [if possible] and another 
>> composed of those with some experience of marijuana, other soft or hard 
>> "controlled" [uncontrolled a better term?] drugs. Ask them to get the 
>> information about all aspects of production, distribution, marketing and 
>> effects of both regulated industrialized drugs and those on the 
>> "controlled substances" lists from agricultural sources. And ask them to 
>> determine what it is that disrupts just and non-violent social behavior 
>> and a civil society. [my prophesy is that the purist jury would be 
>> converted to a more liberal view].
>>
>> /charles laws
>>
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